TRTZ no 35 Dreams and Other Stuff!

On tonight’s show we discussed Dreams, Dreaming and Personal Experience. Our guest was Graeme de Lyons who shared is insights and thoughts…


Some odd news..

Drinkers stunned as bull rampages through pub in Ireland

Punters who were having a quiet drink at their local were left dumbstruck when a bull came crashing into the bar.

The rampaging farm animal sent bar stools flying, wrecked a pool table and butted holes into the walls after it escaped from a nearby cattle auction.

As a final assault on the bar, the beast then urinated on the floor.

The incident happened at the Porter House Tavern in Kingscourt, Co, Cavan, Ireland.

The unexpected visitor is thought to have spotted the open door at the rear of the pub and made a dash for freedom from the farmers market across the road.

A smoker was forced to flee during the incident after the bull barged him out the way and several drinkers were also charged, but nobody was hurt.

Landlord Cyril Rafferty, 30, was behind the bar when the bull barged through the door.

“He just burst through the back door and made a dash for the bar,” Mr Rafferty told the Irish Daily Mirror.

“Everyone is laughing about it now – but it wasn’t funny at the time.

“It’ll take a while before we live this one down and we’ve been getting all the bull-in-the-china-shop and Red Bull jokes.”

He added: “This is one customer who is definitely barred, but I wouldn’t fancy trying to stop him from coming in again.”

Amber Miller was nearly 39 weeks pregnant at the start of the 26.2-mile race, and went into labour shortly after finishing, a spokesman from Central DuPage Hospital said.

Mrs Miller ran in marathons while pregnant with her first son Caleb, but much earlier in the pregnancy, the spokesman said. Mrs Miller told reporters at Central DuPage Hospital that she did not initially plan to finish the race.

“I was kind of planning on running about half, and maybe skipping to the end and walking across the finish line,” she said in a video on the ABCNews website.

She ended up alternating between running for two miles and walking for two miles throughout the race.

After the race, Mrs Miller and her husband, Joe, celebrated for a bit and got some dinner. Then around 3pm Mrs Miller felt contractions and the couple headed to the hospital.

She gave birth to her second child, June, at 10:29pm on Sunday, the spokesman said, adding that the baby and Mrs Miller were both healthy.

Choice of fragrance ‘influenced by our body odour’

Scientists have uncovered why it is so difficult to buy perfume for others – because we are drawn to fragrances that complement and enhance our own body odours.

Researchers claim that rather than using perfumes and aftershave to mask the smells produced by our own bodies, we actually select fragrances to enhance our own natural scent.

They have found that when people choose their own perfume and it is mixed with their own body odour, the resulting smell is rated as being more pleasant and attractive by others than when a perfume is imposed upon individuals.

Dr Jan Havlicek, an anthropologist at Charles University in Prague who has been studying how fragrance influences behaviour, is due to present his results at a conference in London next week.

He said: “Perfumes have been used by people for thousands of years and the prevailing view has been that this was to mask our natural body odour to make us smell more attractive.

“In fact, what we have found is there is a strong individual interaction between perfume and body odour. People choose fragrances to complement their own odour

Church refuses to change light bulb due to ‘overzealous health and safety rules’

A church is refusing to change a light bulb because it says overzealous health and safety rules mean it would cost £500 to change the £2 fixture

Health and safety rules mean scaffolding is required whenever a bulb needs replacing in the 30ft internal roof at St Mary’s Church in Cottingham, Humberside. The church says the rules mean they cannot simply use ladders to change the bulb.

The staggering cost of performing the basic task means the church has to wait until a number of lights have popped before using scaffolding to replace the bulbs.

Not surprisingly, the clergy and congregation could be forgiven for taking a dim view, as it makes it hard to see the hymn books.

St Mary’s Rector Father Paul Smith said: “Because of health and safety rules now, people can’t take up a very long ladder to change the light when the tubes go.

“So every time we need to have some bulbs replaced we hang on until a few need replacing before we get someone in with scaffolding.”

Bong! Big Ben becoming leaning tower of London, say engineers

London’s tower of Big Ben is leaning so much that its tilt can now be seen with the naked eye, civil engineers have discovered.

Surveyors have found that the clock tower at the Palace of Westminster has developed a tilt, which is getting worse every year.

The top of the tower is now almost one-and-a-half feet off the perpendicular – so far off that experts say the tilt is visible to the naked eye.

If the movement was to continue uncorrected, the tower would one day topple. However, MPs can breathe easy: at its current speed it would take some 4,000 years to reach the angle of the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and even longer to hit tipping-point.

In the unlikely event that the tower falls, it will land on MPs’ offices over the road in Portcullis House – which may at least offer some compensation to architectural purists unimpressed by the modern building.

Civil engineers believe that the tower – known colloquially as Big Ben after the main bell it houses – is gradually “sinking” or settling into the land on which it is built. But the pattern is uneven, with the sinking occurring more quickly on the north side than the south.

BBC’s mangled subtitles anger viewers

The BBC has been criticised by deaf groups over “ludicrous” computer-generated subtitles which have labelled the Labour leader “Ed Miller Band” and announced “a moment’s violence” for the Queen Mother.

Hard-of-hearing viewers have been left “utterly perplexed” by errors in the live captions – which have also renamed the Ireland rugby team “Island”.

Deaf people have expressed their shock at being told a town was expecting a visit from the “Arch b**** of Canterbury” during one local BBC news broadcast.

In another embarrassing faux pas, a reporter visiting a farm spoke of how the pigs “love to nibble anything that comes into the shed, like our wellies.”

Unfortunately the subtitles alongside the report changed the last word to to a rather childish homophone. After one viewer captured it on screen the error became an internet sensation.

During the Queen Mother’s funeral, the solemn words “We’ll now have a moment’s silence for the Queen Mother” became “We’ll now have a moment’s violence for the Queen Mother” in one BBC broadcast.

The blunders have become so regular that a dedicated website has been set up by bemused viewers.

One found in another broadcast a BBC announcer said “government making holes for surgeons” instead of “making helpful decisions.”

While the Labour leader was referred to as “Ed Miller Band” in a news broadcast earlier this year.

And in one Daily Politics show, one politician announced to the presenter, Andrew Neil, that he did not believe in “soliciting” himself, when he had actually said “shortlisting”.


Bryan called the show to talk about brain imaging software….

Interesting Articles:

New Scientist 2008

Intel Demos Software

Jack Gallant’s Work

Jack Gallant on Gizmodo

CATHERINE’S Primer on Dreams


Dreaming has been a topic of speculation and discussion for decades, something that even science seems to struggle with, a new theory on the very point of it emerging fairly regularly.  There are, however, some basic facts that we do know about the phenomenon.

While dreams mostly occur during REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep, they are not restricted to this period alone, though you are more likely to remember a dream from this stage of sleep.

REM sleep is characterized by its’ namesake, the rapid movement of the eyes, though it can be divided into two separate phases one of which, the tonic phase, does not include REM.  A few studies have suggested that waking from tonic REM is more beneficial to your attentiveness during the day as opposed to waking during the other stage, phasic, which is characterized by REM.

REM is also known as paradoxical sleep in that it appears to be a deep sleep despite the brainwave activity being similar to those we have during periods of wakefulness.


Psychologically speaking, dreaming is important in that it could be thought of as a direct link to the subconscious mind.  Both Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud placed a great deal of emphasis on the importance of dreams.

Freud believed that dreams composed of two parts, the manifest and the latent content.

He believed that uncovering the latent content that appears as a part of the manifest content would lead to a better understanding of the unconscious mind (The Id) as the latent content of a dream are the manifestations of suppressed or ‘forbidden’ desires.

He spoke of the many ways that the latent becomes the manifest, effectively explaining common dream themes through condensation (Several latent thoughts forming a single manifest image or setting), displacement (A latent desire that is represented as something meaningless), projection (Projecting a latent desire onto another person), rationalization (Organising the insanity of the dream into something that makes sense) and symbolism (The mind uses something more recognizable and acceptable to represent something else less so, so something metaphorical). Symbolism especially and of course, being Freud, this almost always had something to do with sex.

He thought that the disturbing and unpleasant content of the unconscious is therefore released in dreams and that because it is disturbing, symbolism is used to censor some of it.

Thusly, Freuds’ attempts to help his patients uncover the desires of their unconscious would involve exploring the manifest content in as much detail as possible before focusing on one element or aspect and using a method of free association to determine what the dreamer relates to the element in question.  A method still used in understanding dreams today.

He theorized that the reason dreams are difficult to recall is because the super ego, part of the tripartite Id-Ego-Super Ego complex, is attempting to protect the conscious mind from the disturbing images.

He believed that dreams then, were purely a degree of wish fulfillment.

Jung differed in his theories pertaining to the meaning of dreams in that he believed that by ‘understanding how one’s personal unconscious integrates with the collective unconscious, a person can achieve a state of individuation or wholeness of self’ – Vered.

His beliefs about the unconscious were more spiritual and metaphysical in contrast to Freuds’ animalistic unconscious.  Freud and Jungs’ opposing opinions on the nature of dreams were one of the reasons they parted ways.

Jung placed particular significance on the end of a dream because we cannot consciously determine the outcome of the thus far dream-situation.  He said that “Nature is often obscure or impenetrable, but she is not, like man, deceitful. We must therefore take it that the dream is just what it pretends to be, neither more nor less. If it shows something in a negative light, there is no reason for assuming that it is meant positively.”

Unlike Freud, who altogether dismissed manifest content, Jung believed there was just as much significance in manifest content as latent content.  Knowing what is happening in your life at that moment can assist in interpreting the cryptic nature of the latent.


How one goes about interpreting the meaning of a dream varies from culture to culture, ideas varying from psyche insights, windows to a past life, premonitions and even glimpses of another dimension or world.

Edgar Cayce is a significant influence in this field, having contributed vastly to the interpretation of various symbols on an individual basis.

He believed symbols were usually specific to a person, unlike some of Jungs’ collective symbols that he believed meant the same to everyone, such as the shadow (Repressed aspects of the self, often represented by a threatening figure such as a stalker or a murderer) or the divine child (Your true self in pure forms, usually represented by a child or baby).

He made around 630 recorded dream readings to patients.

Cayce described varying forms of dream. For example, he believed that somatic dreams could offer explanations in reference to health problems or the general state of the body.  A famous example might be that of a man who suffered an unspecified food allergy that was solved after he dreamt of a can of coffee.  The individual stopped drinking coffee and his problems abated.

He believed that all subconscious minds were in contact with one another and that people could communicate with loved ones or spiritual entities regardless of their presence or lack thereof on this physical plane.

He suspected we were visited by some such spiritual incarnations that sought to reassure in reference to their well-being in other realms of existence.  Or perhaps they’d come to deliver a message, bring us information or seek our aid in order to solve a problem left undone in their time on our plane.  He also spoke of the possibility of these entities came to influence us with desires of their own, be they sinister or advantageous.

He offered examples of dreams that he interpreted involving relatives who had passed on appearing and detailing instructions about where to find a will or a lost object.

He also believed that we were capable of recalling past life experiences and even see into the future, a feat that crops up regularly in dream lore across the world.

He also stated that these abilities were achievable by all.

He spoke of how the events we experience in dreams could be looked upon as a past condition because this dimension is ‘a projection of what is being built at another higher level.’  Therefore, in dreams, we ‘become aware of what is being built, and what may be projected into the physical in the future.’

Additionally, precognitive dreams were described as being a glimpse of what we are currently building that may come into manifestation later.

He pointed out that ‘thoughts are deeds in the mental realm, and they increase or mar the activities of the higher self.’

Almost all advice pertaining to the analysis of dreams recommends keeping a dream journal.  The reasons for this are manifold, given that it can help you spy recurring themes or symbols and make it easier to understand future manifestations of something similar.  Plus, it is thought that dreams in a series often contain the same message in different symbols.

Though it is possible to purchase dream dictionaries and indeed, find a compilation of Cayces’ symbolic interpretations  on the internet, it is important to keep in mind that most authorities on the subject stand by the postulation that symbols are personal, and that a specific symbol to one person may mean something totally different to another.

Predictive dreams are surprisingly little researched considering the regularity some claim to have them.  Incidents can be found throughout history in great detail and some of the earliest stories of prophetic dreams are even in the Bible. Josephs’ interpretations of the Pharoahs’ prophetic dreams and the dreams of Herods’ pursuit of Jesus are especially famous.

Other historical incidents include:

Abraham Lincoln dreamt of his funeral taking place in his home just before his death.

James Watson, the man who discovered the double-helix structure of DNA, dreamed of a spiral staircase prior to this discovery.

Friedrich August Kekulé discovered the chemical structure of benzene (C6H6) when he dreamt of a group of snakes swallowing their tails.

Paul McCartney is reputed to have dreamt of the tune for Yesterday before he wrote it.

Herge (Belgian Comic artist and creator of TinTin) had nightmares of being pursued by a white skeleton, after which everything else in the dream would also turn white. Instead of taking the advice of his psychiatrist and having some time off from the comic strip writing, he used the nightmare to fuel his visions for TinTin in Tibet, resulting in the cessation of the nightmares and the production of what is regarding in the industry as something of a masterpiece.

Joan of Arc is said to have dreamt of her death before it occurred.

Hannibal based his battle plans against the Romans on a dream.

Even Einstein is said to have discovered the theory of relativity after a prophetic dream about it.

Freud believed the notion of prophetic dreams to be non-sensical, Jung however, believed that a psychic operative was entirely possible.

In (some) Native American tradition, a dream quest is performed before puberty in order to determine the life direction of a person in accordance with the spiritual guidance they receive.  Often after a period of fasting, the individual will go walking in the wilderness alone where they may be assisted by their spirit guide or guardian animal and in doing so, become attuned with the surrounding nature, then return to the tribe to follow their life direction.

There is a general agreement amongst many psychologiststhat most dreams are too vague and unpredictable to be called prophetic and are more likely to be coincidence.  This is not helped by the fact that most dreams deemed as prophetic are not connected with an event until after it has occurred.

Freud believed that believing an event will occur after having dreamed about it can actually cause it to happen.

Some believe that prophetic dreams are messages from the divine sources.

Cayce spoke of several patients who received instructions or advice from God and recommended prayer in troublesome situations.  He himself placed heavy importance on his relationship with God.

Egyptian and Greek folklore often reference dreams as being divine or sacred in some way.  Egyptian lore makes numerous references to the appearance of Gods in dreams, which acted as an oracle, and those who had vivid or relevant dreams were hailed as gifted.  If troubled, you might be advised to visit a shrine and lie upon a ‘dream bed’ in the hope of receiving some words from the Gods.

Many cultures and religions divide dreams into the good, delivered by God, and the bad, delivered by demons.

There was once thought in Christian tradition that dreams were messages from God, but Martin Luther, the German theologian behind the Protestant reformation, believed they were the work of the devil and that the Church was the only conduit for the word of God.

Mohammed, one of the Prophets of Islam, is said to have collected much of the writings of the Koran through his dreams.

As aforementioned, there are numerous examples of prophetic dreams throughout the Bible.

Many cultures believe that dreaming is a form of migration of the soul to another world, temporarily.

Chinese lore spoke of the soul leaving the body to traverse the dream world and worried that sudden awakening might result in the soul being unable to return to the body.



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Lucid dreaming.

Historical dream interpretations.

Dreaming in African culture…?

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